This is a brief clip from a recent podcast with Juan O Savin (107). The host is John Michael Chambers who, at last report, is married to a Thai woman and has lived in Thailand for the past number of years.
This excerpt begins with Chambers expressing his surprise and disappointment that certain prominent individuals are causing “dissension” in the ranks of the MAGA movement.
He cites RINOs in Congress in general, but then in particular he names Tucker Carlson, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene (who is “Q-savvy), Alex Jones, and Candace Owens as having taken issue with Trump for supporting Israel by having our armed forces take out the nuclear development bases in Iran.
He asks Juan, “Was this a smoke-out operation to see who’s with us and who is not?”
Personally, I resent that type of question, as though Mr. Chambers is in charge of keeping all people claiming to be MAGA in line with everything POTUS does. Gosh, Mr. Chambers, I though DJT had done a marvelous job of creating a very big tent in the Republican Party/MAGA movement?
But only as big a tent as you determine, is that it? If we do not go along with the “The Jews are God’s chosen people” mantra, then we are not MAGA, is that what you’re saying? It seems so.
But leave it to Juan to come up with a gentle but brilliant answer to Mr. Chambers. But all this seemingly fails to register in the mind of Mr. Chambers. Juan questions whether the current state of Israel is the true Israel (!).
This is an almost verbatim quote of Mr. 107 as he continues, “…or are they (the Jews in the Israeli state) in some way the devil’s modern version of the giants moved into place to prevent the Son of God from coming and taking His place on the throne in Jerusalem?”
As our regular readers know, we do not necessarily believe that King Jesus will “touch down” and take a seat on a throne in the old Jerusalem. Rather, He will rule from the New Jerusalem. At the 9:25 minute mark, Juan clearly states that the current Zionist state “…is not the Israel of promise to Abraham.” Yay, right on!
But then unfortunately, Juan goes right on to make a grievous error when he states, “…that whatever covenant existed with the bloodlines of Abraham prior to Christ, from a Christian perspective are null and void through the blood of Christ.” Yikes!
Yes, that is what many Christian denominations teach—replacement theology, etc., but they are greatly deceived in that teaching, in our opinion.
Dear brother Juan, we have done a serious study (48 hours of lectures) on The Covenants of the Bible, and would take issue that the covenants made with Abraham and “the bloodlines of Abraham…are null and void.” Those would include the Abrahamic Covenant (renewed with Isaac and Jacob-Israel), the Mosaic Covenant, the Davidic Covenant, to name a few.
For starters, just consider these Scriptures: First, the prophecy of Zacharias’ at the circumcision of John the Baptist:
Luke 1:71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
Later, after the death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus, Paul (of the tribe of Benjamin) writing to the brethren in Rome, states that he wishes he himself “…were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises [contained in the covenants of the OT- JWB];
Elsewhere, Paul makes clear that the blood sacrifices and ritual ordinances under the Mosaic Covenant were done away with by Christ’s sacrifice. However, the many other promises to the fathers have been and still are being fulfilled to Jacob-Israel’s descendants (not the modern Jews), as we have shown in those four dozen in-depth lectures.
We are not “throwing under the bus” either Juan or Mr. Chambers but we do have some disagreements here and encourage both of them to allow within their perception of the MAGA movement some differences of opinion.
Personally, I think that I (and most of our readers) understand a larger picture of why our President did what he did, and I support his action against Iran. We have mentioned it before in these blogs; namely, how DJT is fulfilling many biblical types, and this one in particular is that of King Jehu.
Furthermore, we recall from the Q posts, that “Israel will be (dealt with) last.” In our view, that is still to come.
Here is the link to the brief video excerpt.
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