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Hello, again! Picking up exactly where we left off… I was offering a suggestion that if the reader finds someone who is willing to look at an alternative viewpoint of prophecy; namely, how the Jews going back to old Canaanland are fulfilling Bible prophecy, but a prophecy about Edom, then, take them to Ezekiel 36
Ezekiel 36:1 Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD:
By this point in these studies, I would expect most of my readers to know that the word “hills” in Bible prophecy refers to smaller or lesser nations and the word “mountains” refers to greater nations. And did you notice this is plural here? Mountains. So it clearly is speaking of the latter days when dispersed Israel became numerous greater nations.
The nations of European Christendom and their descendants in North America, Australia and elsewhere are indeed the mountains, the greater nations, as compared to the so-called third world nations. Okay, so God goes on now to refer to Israel’s ancient enemy, Esau Edom.
2 Thus saith the Lord GOD [Yahweh]; Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession:
What ancient high places? Mt. Everest? Mt. Kilimanjaro? No, of course not. The context is Israel and Edom. Therefore, the contested ancient high place is the one that is now called “the temple mount.” And since 1967, Edom has possessed it.
When we correctly identify the people groups in the Bible, it is astonishing how certain prophecies seem to just burst wide open to our understanding. Try that with this prophecy on your own as sometime your read down through at least verse 15 in this chapter.
We cannot take the time for that now, because our point here is that in 2 Samuel 7:10, it has to mean some land other than the old, promised land, therefore totally nullifying the common dispensationalist understanding of the Jews going back to Israel.
Point #2 concerning 2 Samuel 7:10. And this concerns a difference in interpretation from that which our beloved Israel brethren in the British Isles have taught for a century and a half. It is the idea that the British Isles are the “appointed place.”
While it is true that it was a regathering place of the tribes, it does not fit the rest of the verse, the part which reads “and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more…”
Clearly, Christianized Israelites did move from England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and from all the other Israelite nations in Europe to come to North America. Just as obvious is the fact that some went to Australia, New Zealand, and south Africa as well; but it is the USA which fulfills the other prophecies about Israel becoming a world superpower.
And yet we see that the next clause in 2 Samuel 7:10 is still awaiting fulfillment. This clause states: “neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them anymore…” We, along with the rest of Israel, and the rest of the non-Israelite world, are presently being afflicted by “the children of wickedness” in the form of Mystery Babylon.
But that affliction will cease at the fall of Mystery Babylon, when it is replaced by the full blossoming of the Stone Kingdom. It is a work in progress. It is all God’s Plan being played out on the stage called history.
Back to Daniel, chapter 2. Alright, so far we have seen how the phrase “I beheld till the thrones were cast down,” in Daniel 7:9 corresponds with the how the stone kingdom “shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms” in Daniel 2, verse 44.
We have seen how, in my view, this has been fulfilled in the 20th century as the monarchies of Europe were cast down. And we have seen how in prior lectures how the little horn, the papacy was taken down a notch or two in the 19th century, but the institution of the papacy is not dead and gone yet, is it?
Now let us proceed to verse 45. First, I need to repeat verse 44, because the first point I want us to understand is that verse 45 is both a repetition of, and an explanation of verse 44.
Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
Now, let’s analyze it. Verse 45. Do you see how that connector word “forasmuch” indicates to the reader that what follows is explanation of what we just read? Grammatically, that is the purpose of the word “forasmuch.”
Furthermore, we even see very similar phrases in both verses; namely, in verse 44, it says:
but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms,
whereas in verse 45, it says:
it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; …
It is obvious that the phrase “the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold”
is an explanation of the phrase “these kingdoms” in verse 44. Do we all see that?
We are trying to explain these passages so that “no child is left behind,” (wink, wink; no child of God, that is). I explain them in very minute detail so that we can all see how God is opening the secrets of the book of Daniel. …Because it is the appointed time.
Verse 45 is part of the explanation that God had given Daniel to tell Babylon’s King Nebuchadnezzar, to tell him what the dream was and what it meant. So verse 45 itself refers back to verse 34, which reads:
Daniel 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
“…which smote the image upon his feet…”
Alright, the dispensationalists and the evangelicals have been telling Christians for decades (actually, for over a century) that the rapture could occur at any time, and the great singular Antichrist will then come to power and make a treaty with the Jews, and 3½ or 7 years later, Christ will return and then, because Jesus is the Stone, He will smite the image upon its feet, and so forth.
Nonsense! I trust you can now understand #1, that Jesus personally is not the stone in this passage, but that the kingdom restored to Israel is the stone—remember the apostles’ question to our Lord? “Wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?”
And I trust you can now understand #2, that the stone kingdom has been smiting the image on its feet and toes for a couple of centuries already. It is not future. Nor is it a completed and past event. It is present progressive. It is on-going.
The Stone Kingdom began to arise in the days of these kings—either the kingdoms of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, or more likely and specifically, in the days of papal Rome and the ten-toed kingdoms.
The Stone Kingdom began to arise in the appointed place, on the North American continent. But from the beginning, there were tares mixed with the wheat, as the papacy and their secret agents, the Jesuits, crept in unawares.
If you have read the book, Rulers of Evil, by the late F. Tupper Saussy, then you have a good understanding of the attempts by the Jesuits to seize control of this new nation right out of the starting box in the 1700s.
We stocked the book until we could no longer get it because it has been out of print now for years. So, you will have to find a copy on your own.
But while the papacy; i.e., religious Babylon has not succeeded in making the USA subservient, financial Babylon has succeeded. Nevertheless, there are several other entities vying for power over this Stone Kingdom nation. This statement by our Lord Jesus is worth pondering.
Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Yes, even until now in 2020, the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and various groups use violence to forcefully try to grab control of this Stone Kingdom nation.
And yet, at the same time while we are in captivity to Mystery Babylon through the Federal Reserve System, in the past generation or two we have been openly smiting North Korea, North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other nations, which are not of the ten toes, so what is with that?
I said the USA has been “openly smiting.” How many more nations is the USA secretly smiting? Who knows? So what’s with that? How does that fit?
Well, it is just what it looks like. Christianized Israel in America is both. We are in captivity and we are being used by the powers-that-be to break in pieces and crush any opposition.
The powers-that-be, I have said for a long time, are really the powers-that-think-they be. Just as old Nebuchadnezzar thought he was an absolute sovereign, so do today’s rulers of Mystery Babylon.
But, make no mistake, they do have power, but it is only such power as has been delegated to them by the Most High God. They are carrying out His Plan to perfection. We will come back to this stone smiting process in a few minutes, but now I want to analyze verse 45 a bit more deeply.
Daniel 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands…
Let’s just take that much of it. The stone was cut out of the mountain… A mountain is a kingdom. Or alternately, what did we say earlier that a mountain symbolizes? A larger or greater nation, right? It could even be an empire, could it not? Yes. Okay, let that verse simmer for a minute while we pull in a passage we mentioned a lecture or two ago, Micah 4.
Micah is located in the section of the Bible called the Minor Prophets which is found just before the New Testament begins with the book of Matthew. So when you find Matthew, go about seven short books before that. They are called Minor Prophets, by the way, not because their message was less important, but only because their books are not as large as the major prophets.
Micah 4 is in reality Micah’s snapshots of the Stone Kingdom, although that term, per se, is not found therein.
Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD [Yahweh] shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
Time frame? In the last days. Theologically, that term can refer to any period after the time of Jesus, so I think that the past five centuries qualifies. What is going to happen? The mountain of the house of the Lord…stop there. Once more, what is a mountain?
A greater nation. So, are we all agreed this is not talking about the church, are we? The nation of the house of the Lord. There is only one people who could qualify as the house of the Lord: Israel.
Back to the verse, and therefore, Israel in the last days “…shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills…” Oh, so this greater nation is actually going to be the greatest nation.
Let’s use modern terminology, shall we? Is not America the only remaining superpower? As some of you know, the old Soviet Union never really was a superpower. Its economy and standard of living was always a train wreck. Militarily, all that it had was either given to it, or sold to it, by wicked people (tares) at the highest levels in and behind our government.
The supposed superpower status of the Soviet Union was a media-facilitated facade designed to scare the American people. Why? So that the military-industrial-complex and the international banksters behind them could enrich themselves while at the same time working to bring the American people down to a level so that this nation could be comfortably merged into a one world government.
I have documentation on that, but it would take us off track right now. Let us look at a parallel verse in Isaiah 2. And if it is a parallel to Micah 4, then obviously, the Stone Kingdom is also found in the book of Isaiah, again, not by those specific words. And this is not the only place, but I want to show you a slight difference.
Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
It’s identical to the verse in Micah, except for the last phrase: Micah says “people;” Isaiah says “all nations shall flow unto it.” Has that happened to America? And is that continuing to happen? Yes. Clearly, people from every nation on earth are continuing to pour into America, legally and illegally.
Back to Daniel 2 and verse 45 now. So we have seen that the prophecy about Israel in the latter days includes the idea that the regathered Israel nation will become the greatest of nations. In that kingdom or mountain or nation, there will—for a long time—be both good and evil, wheat and tares, Christians and non-Christians. All of them are part of this mountain, this great nation.
But notice that it says that “the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands.” That tells us that not all the people in this mountain-nation are part of the stone. They are in the kingdom, but they are not of part of the stone. In other words, we have to distinguish between the mountain and the stone that was “cut out of” it. In other words, we have to distinguish between the kingdom and the stone.
The phrase “without hands” would indicate that it is not man’s doing, but God’s. It means that God has chosen, God has predestinated, who will comprise the stone that is cut out of the mountain.
We have at least two possibilities: 1. That all Christian believers comprise the stone, or 2. That only the overcomers comprise the stone. Now, I confess that I am not one hundred percent convinced that I am correct on what I am about to share with you; I await further confirmation or revelation. But the following makes sense to me.
If we remember that all Christian believers includes the overcomers, then I think we can make sense of it, because once again, understanding timing is essential. I have said this before, but it bears repeating because the falsehood has been drummed into our understanding for so long by the dispensationalist teaching whose influence has gone far beyond their own fundamentalist circles.
I am referring again to this (false) notion that so many prophecies are fulfilled in extremely short periods of time, whereas we have seen over and over in nearly every passage we have studied in Daniel how just a few verses have taken centuries in their fulfillment.
So let us endeavor to keep that timing concept foremost in our consciousness. To begin to explain my understanding of the stone and the kingdom, look at Daniel 2:44 once again. We shall continue from this point in the next installment.
