Juan O Savin on the Elohim as God or gods and space aliens

True to form, Juan is always reluctant to say anything negative about someone he feels he can learn from, and thus his comments about Clif (that’s the correct spelling with one f”) High.

We have seen a few of Mr. High’s podcasts and we place little credibility in his offerings. The description below, which we quote from Juan O Savin Presentations,” is said to be from Clif High’s Substack offering. We place no credibility in the space aliens” theory.

Moreover, when Juan speaks of the three great world religions which have their roots in Abraham—Christianity, Judaism, and Islam—we cannot be so generous as Juan. Only one is the true religion. The others are clearly antichristian to anyone who has done a modicum of homework.

Christianity did not evolve / come out of Judaism. It did come out of the ancient Hebrew religion which is theologically miles apart from Judaism. We are quite sure Juan knows all this, but we suppose Juan is trying to find common ground with some people he knows who profess those religions.

Psalm 94:20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Of course, one could parse the Scriptures above and know that such is not an absolute prohibition of never, ever speaking a word with someone of another religion. For then, we must needs go out of the world.” We are in the world but not of the world. For clarity’s sake we offer this non-KJV of this verse:

BBE 1 Corinthians 5:10 But I had not in mind the sinners who are outside the church, or those who have a desire for and take the property of others, or those who give worship to images; for it is not possible to keep away from such people without going out of the world completely:

And that principle is perhaps where Juan would justify his acknowledgment” of the three great Abrahamic religions.” Sorry, Juan, there is only one great Abrahamic religion, and it comes through the God who became man, our Savior, Jesus Christ. Judaism and Islam are antichrist.

Setting our criticisms aside, we still found this podcast discourse by Juan to be worth a listen. But first we shall set forth the meaning of Elohim from our resources.

Here is a copy and paste from my BibleWorks software, which is based not only on Strong’s Hebrew Lexicon but also the Brown-Driver-Brigg’s Lexicon. Sorry if the Hebrew alphabet does not convert properly to some devices (It might look like gibberish). The important part is where these experts give the meanings of Elohim (which we have underlined).

H430 ~yhil{a/ elohiym {el-o-heem’}¤ plural of 0433; TWOT - 93c; n m p

¤ AV - God 2346, god 244, judge 5, GOD 1, goddess 2, great 2, mighty 2, angels 1, exceeding 1, God-ward + 04136 1, godly 1; 2606

¤ 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

Notice that Elohim is a plural noun and is based on Strong’s #433, eloah, which again we copy and paste from our BibleWorks software, and again, we call your attention to the fact that it can refer either to the one true God or to false gods.

H433 H;Ala/ elowahh {el-o’-ah rarely (shortened) H;loa/ eloahh {el-o’-ah} ¤ probably prolonged (emphat.) from 0410; TWOT - 93b; n m ¤ AV - God 52, god 5; 57 ¤ 1) God 2) false god

The following description of this podcast comes from Juan O Savin Presentations,” complete with his/her misspellings, grammatical sloppiness, etc. QUOTE:

Juan has enjoyed Clif Highs way of thinking”. But this was so strange and Juan admitted he had not seen the MANY X posts that Clif had been talking about. Some of them slammed and dissed Juan, Bo Polny, Dr. Michael Salla etc. The posts I saw were borderline crazy town. I think you need to see what Clif High was talking about.

What Does Eloim Mean?

The term Elohim” means supreme one” or mighty one.” It is not only used of the one true God but is also used on occasion to refer to human rulers, judges, and even angels. If you saw one exhibiting supreme rule and expressed mighty power, the word you would use would be Elohim. That does not necessarily mean that you are referring to the one unique God. But even as one comes to understand Yahweh, you might still grab hold of this particular word, Elohim, in order to emphasize God’s power and might. https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/elohim-supreme-one-mighty-one.html

This is from Clif HIghs Substack. https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/elohim-current-capacity-in-contention


The Elohim are extra terrestrial beings with a many thousands of years history of interaction with humans. This history is found now encoded into our religions, and religious texts. These are not the only ancient sources for information about the Elohim.

The Elohim are also called the Annunaki, the Theoi, the Devas, and other names for gods’. This assessment examines all such differing names from their respective traditions and translations.

The Elohim came from off-planet. Thousands of years ago, they conquered much of humanity.

The Elohim, the conquering space aliens, were on earth in the previous descending yugas, this is to say, within the last 12,000 years of the cycle. For reference, this report uses the Yukteswar dating of the yugas, placing the time now as the 326th year of the ascending Dwapara Yuga, the Kali Yuga having been left in 1699 CE.

The Elohim are the gods’ of most of the human religions. This includes Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and several others, mostly historical religions. These are all based on the human interactions with these space originating beings.

The Elohim has been chosen as the reference name for this report as this was their most recent name historically. [End quote of Mr. High] END QUOTE

Here is the link to the video which runs 1:24:24. Apparently, after many hints by Juan to Tom Numbers” in the past, Tom is finally greatly refraining from interjecting much of his numeric interpretations into the discourse. PTL!


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